H13 14th conversation of Jorge Barrenechea with an Ummite

14th CONVERSATION WITH AN UMMITE (Talkative) - Jorge Barrenechea, 4 January 1988, from 12:35 to 13:22, duration 47'

The call comes from outside Spain: CÓRDOBA (ARGENTINA).

(Rafael Farriols) I was in Madrid with Carmela on 26, 27 and 28 December 1987. On the 27th, while at Jorge's house, I call Marisol, who does not want to write down the questions and announces that there was a letter in the letterbox at Goya 57 at 19:45.

The letter was TRIPLE:

1st. Personal advice for Jorge Barrenechea and Juan Domínguez: make no copies, do not read in public.

2nd. Responsibility of the OEMMII (copies for R. Farriols and Luis Jiménez Marhuenda).

3rd. Mechanism of reasoning, with a drawing of the functions of the brain, produced for José Luis Jordán Peña. (Free copies for any brothers who may be interested.)

Now Jorge Barrenechea relates the stages of the process. I had gone out to make copies and came back; the new housekeeper, María José, told me that a gentleman who could not be understood at all had called several times. I asked her whether he spoke like someone who had been operated on the throat and she said yes. When he called me shortly afterwards, he began speaking very badly, to the point that I thought he was not the talkative one. He told me he could answer the THREE questions of my brother Rafael Farriols, that he would provide the answers typewritten, and I ask the following questions:

1st. You say in a letter addressed to him (R. Farriols) and to our brother Juan Domínguez that the specific subsector of polymers WILL SUFFER SERIES OF DISTURBANCES IN THE FUTURE, due precisely to a massive concentration of its activity. What do you mean: a concentration of products or a geographical concentration of the activity?

2nd. If you choose your line of investment carefully, you will go on to success.
Do you mean:
- material investments?
- an association with other companies?
- a diversification of products?

3rd. Should our brother Rafael Farriols share with the men and women of his company his thoughts, that is, the part of the letter addressed to R. F. and J. D. that may be freely spread?

Ummo - Now speak.

JB. - May I give my nephew Julián a copy of the letter addressed to our brother Rafael Farriols, sent on 20 March 1987?

U. - Yes.

JB. - May I ask questions?

U. - Only one.

J. B.'s comments: I had with me the envelope with the questions asked by all our people, which I knew contained 500 or perhaps a thousand.

The only question, I believe, which was not in the envelope, but in fact he granted me that they themselves had suggested it:

JB. - What role do UMMOWOA and JESUS CHRIST play in all this cosmology you tell us about?

U. - Very good, very good.

J. B.'s comments: I believe he meant to tell me that if there could be only one question, that one would be very good, and it seems to me they would also answer it in writing.

Then I begged his pardon for our clumsiness, which puts the group out of harmony, and said I believed I could promise it would not happen again.

U. - You have committed a serious fault. Your conduct was surely involuntary. Strive to maintain harmony in the group. It is very important for you. You cannot imagine how important it is to maintain concord and fraternity. It is very important to maintain that harmony. You are very agitated. Your limbic system exerts strong tension. Your unconscious system and your limbic system exert very strong tensions.

You do not understand that your brothers' conduct is incorrect. Sometimes there are powerful reasons...

(J. B. - In fact I did not put the following one, because these are things that seem to me already said in writing in the private letters they addressed to Juan Domínguez, Juan Aguirre and myself, which I have kept.)

JB. - (The question: whether they prefer us to meet in the basement or upstairs, in my home.)

U. - Upstairs, where we have more facilities for recording. If 4 or 5, up to 7, meet, your home will do. If there are more, the place you have set aside in the basement of the house will be more suitable. It is very difficult for us to place our equipment so that it is camouflaged and cannot be detected, because there is no furniture.

JB. - But are you currently in Spain?

U. - We are not in Spain. But even so we can place recording systems (JB - I think that is what he said).

JB. - With a view to informing the BB, are we equally effective upstairs as downstairs?

U. - Yes, yes, clearly.

JB. - About the report of 20 March 1987 to our brother Rafael Farriols and myself, regarding when we live we are dead and life begins when we die... Those words fill me with consolation and hope. Now the matter has changed with that Purgatory for lack of information in the B.B.

U. - Purgatory? NO! Intellectual suffering is terribly dramatic. If you or we do not fulfil the UAA, then we must carry out a reconversion that erases our acts of violation (of the UAA).

JB. - I have on my conscience acts that may perhaps make that reconversion necessary, and that makes me suffer.

U. - If your acts are not TRULY voluntary, there is no need for reconversion. Through the influence of the human genome and the pressure of the limbic system, the BEING is moved by a tension above the THRESHOLD.

(JB. - Before the question I put earlier, I told him there was a parallel between the words of Christ - who promised whoever followed him in this life a HUNDREDFOLD and, in the next, eternal life - and what they tell us: those who fulfil that mission will be HELPED in this life and the next.)

U. - The future life will be much more transcendent, but this one is too.

JB. - Forgive me for insisting, but since we must thank you for these letters and these conversations, we would like to know your name or your pseudonym.

U. - It is not advisable. Because at this moment this conversation is being recorded by our occasional services.

JB. - Can you tell me something about Juan Domínguez and the company he is negotiating with?

U. - Let him take precautions, without going so far as to cancel a possible investment with that firm. Let him be very PRUDENT, enormously PRUDENT. They are very interested and will keep trying everything.

JB. - As for OPTICAL FIBRE, what can you tell me?

U. - It is very interesting, both commercially and technologically (the optical transformation of signals).

Entry into the field of production requires heavy investment. It is much more profitable than the production of polymers. You should set up an embryo in Madrid. Strong dynamisms in the field of that technology converge there.

PHOTONICS has a promising future for you. The company that knows how to see it will be a LEADING business.

You must take care to set up a commercial line with a view to FUTURE PRODUCTION, and it will be EASY for you to contact foreign firms. You may set up an office in Madrid or near Madrid. It would be a very interesting line of investment, with chosen collaborators. Juan Domínguez could help you and you yourself could collaborate (take part) with your commercial experience. Jorge Barrenechea, you could set up a very important line. You must study that field of technology.

JB. - You said that electronics was dying. How long will it still last?

U. - It is hard to assess exactly. It will take a long time to die completely, but OPTRONICS will progressively cut into the activity of electronics. OPTRONICS will dominate the transformation of signals in the field from 600 millimicrons of wavelength to 250 millimicrons. And in another range, from 960 millimicrons (in the infrared) to the visible frequencies of 840 millimicrons.

JB. - So communications will make full use of OPTRONICS.

U. - Naturally: communication, robotics, ALL OF ELECTRONICS and even more, amplifiers, computers...

In a third phase, after electronics and photonics, will come BIONICS. You will not see it. Bionics with ARTIFICIAL biological elements. You will live through PHOTONICS.

As regards the group's behaviour:

U. - Always avoid resentment, which destroys the group's dynamism.

JB. - Why have you lately not mentioned our sister Hiltrud in your letters?

U. - We have not sidelined her at all. The letters are selected. We have not sidelined your sister.

We have done for her what we are not accustomed to doing.

JB. - I know, because she has told me.

U. - We value her greatly for her resignation in suffering. She has studied our language and we have a special affection for her.

JB. - My brother Rafael Farriols gave me a photocopy of the other questions he intended to ask you besides the three he has already asked. May I ask them?

U. - No.

From then on he said nothing more; although I heard noises and insisted for 8 minutes, he said nothing to me. Then the telephone gave the engaged tone.